Tom and Ollie speak to Buddhist Monk, Ven Marcos Troia about the current state of the world. In this conversation, Marcos reflects on the journey that has led him towards Buddhism, touching upon his upbringing, his old life within law and finance and where he finds himself in the world today. Tom and Ollie join Marcus in reflection, looking back at their time working on Dropout, analysing their exceptions and their attempts to find fulfilment in their work.